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theladyrose ([personal profile] theladyrose) wrote2008-06-02 03:56 pm
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girl with the flying chair

I think I'm officially known at the Verona train station as that strange American girl who tried to reserve a spot on the Milano-Lausanne connection for a flying chair.

una sedia votelle: wheelchair
una sedia volante: flying chair

Ooops. This is what happens when you watch too many Pink Panther/Get Smart-ish things. The good news is that they gave me a refund on the tickets that I bought that were marked up ridiculously, although it was fun trying to explain the situation in my very limited Italian sprinkled awkwardly with French.

The people at the front desk of where I'm living are convinced that I slept with the friend who visited me this past weekend. It was the only way I could figure out how to sneak him in because technically we're not supposed to have guests stay over. Marco now gives me awkward winks, and I find it difficult to stifle giggling (yes, giggling) whenever I'm going in or out now. I've also come to the slightly depressing conclusion that the only way you can keep Italian men from openly oggling/calling you out is if you're in the company of another guy. The more awkward part was going into the cafés and random couples/parents looking at us, totally puzzled as to why we weren't holding hands or anything like that. I know Plato's Greek, but I would've expected that the concept of platonic friendship wouldn't be so novel over here, friends of different genders going out together. Or maybe I was just being especially self-conscious as my friend has a girlfriend but openly admitted that he's always liked Asian girls...and this was before he had anything alcoholic. Still, we did end up having a fun time.

I am convinced that we might've found the best gelateria in the heart of town near the Arena, but I think I need to go there more before I can be sure :D

[identity profile] laleia.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, well re: Italians on platonic friendship, I did read someone's personal opinion that Italians in general tend to be more touch-affectionate. So perhaps (and maybe I don't know enough about Italian culture to make any definitive statements) affectionate gestures like holding hands aren't reserved for couples -- it's possibly/probably something co-ed friends can do platonically, as well. After all, in the U.S. girls can hold hands with their girl friends -- but not their guy friends?

[identity profile] theladyrose.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I've had the vague impression that Italians are more touch-affectionate than "average" Americans (although I've seen major PDAs, even in the pouring rain), although in the northern regions this tends to be less the case than it is along the coast or futher sound. Expressing emotional intimacy, even in a platonic sense, through physical contact has always been something that puzzles me intellectually.

My impression was that platonic friendships among people of different genders in the US are often characterized by a moderate amount of touch affection, but I do see what you mean about how holding hands (and ironically enough, not making out) tends to be reserved for only same gender female friendships or romantic relationships. Only within relatively recent years have I reached the point where I felt comfortable enough hugging a number of my female friends, but I tend to be overly touch averse when it comes to even people I'm interested in.